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	<title>Comments on: Plasma &#8211; Desktop Icons in KDE 4.2</title>
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		<title>By: HerbertHornBlower</title>
		<link>http://hanschen.org/2009/01/29/plasma-desktop-icons-in-kde-42/#comment-1941</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Firstly a big thanks to the author of this article but a hell of a shame it&#039;s fcu*ing necessary to find something like this just to do very basic normal things on a desktop like use f**ing icons as normal basic shortcuts and actually HAVE THEM SHOW UP AT ALL (ie. I like to set the download destination in Firefox to the desktop so I can always see the newly downloaded item/icon appear).

THIS JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW HALFWITTED MOST OF THE LINUX/KDE DEVS TRULY ARE, now obviously these types are good at coding and I really respect that but when it comes to &quot;real life&quot; or basic common sense they are so stupid, even a Tortoise is bright in comparison. I have used linux for nearly 2 years and had a good experience with Gnome 2.xx, until now that they also show how stupid they are by giving everyone a touchscreen interface with NO choice in the matter, KDE is the only nice looking alternative, so I have switched in the last few weeks and find that it takes so much reading and begging just to find the way to do some really basic things in KDE, like many of the things mentioned above and in those basic &#039;how to&#039; animations.

Oh, and btw, dragging &amp; dropping between 2 open windows side by side in KDE is a joke aswell, perhaps some kind soul might write a whole new blog on this just to help the poor folks who will be sticking with this crap.

Unfortunatley I can now see why so many millions of people all over the place like forums, Youtube etc etc say &quot;Linux Sucks&quot; because basically, it does, hows about another &quot;LITTLE&quot; thing like the categorically bad appearance of Firefox in just about every single KDE distro, people then yap on about GTK+Oxygen themes and a whole load of similar garbage, the fonts look so bad in firefox it could seriously damage someones eyesight for chrissakes!. So do I really want to spend ages messing with fonts, changing stupid themes just to view any webpage with the naked human eyes? NO

Back to a proper, professionally developed OS for me, WIN 7 Ultimate 64bit, perfect fonts, perfect stability, far better apps, far better appearance, no messing with fonts and stupid &quot;folder views&quot; just to get a &quot;traditional&quot; desktop, yes the downside is damn security suites and their updating etc but at least I can actually enjoy computing and finally, so many of the stupid Linux users remarks about &quot;blue screens of death&quot;, what bsods? I haven&#039;t seen a bsod since Win 2000, Vista &amp; 7 are rock solid stable.

Enjoy the garbage that is KDE &amp; all other modern DEs since the only half decent one, Gnome 2.xx, is now a thing of the past !!! LOL and BYE :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly a big thanks to the author of this article but a hell of a shame it&#8217;s fcu*ing necessary to find something like this just to do very basic normal things on a desktop like use f**ing icons as normal basic shortcuts and actually HAVE THEM SHOW UP AT ALL (ie. I like to set the download destination in Firefox to the desktop so I can always see the newly downloaded item/icon appear).</p>
<p>THIS JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW HALFWITTED MOST OF THE LINUX/KDE DEVS TRULY ARE, now obviously these types are good at coding and I really respect that but when it comes to &#8220;real life&#8221; or basic common sense they are so stupid, even a Tortoise is bright in comparison. I have used linux for nearly 2 years and had a good experience with Gnome 2.xx, until now that they also show how stupid they are by giving everyone a touchscreen interface with NO choice in the matter, KDE is the only nice looking alternative, so I have switched in the last few weeks and find that it takes so much reading and begging just to find the way to do some really basic things in KDE, like many of the things mentioned above and in those basic &#8216;how to&#8217; animations.</p>
<p>Oh, and btw, dragging &amp; dropping between 2 open windows side by side in KDE is a joke aswell, perhaps some kind soul might write a whole new blog on this just to help the poor folks who will be sticking with this crap.</p>
<p>Unfortunatley I can now see why so many millions of people all over the place like forums, Youtube etc etc say &#8220;Linux Sucks&#8221; because basically, it does, hows about another &#8220;LITTLE&#8221; thing like the categorically bad appearance of Firefox in just about every single KDE distro, people then yap on about GTK+Oxygen themes and a whole load of similar garbage, the fonts look so bad in firefox it could seriously damage someones eyesight for chrissakes!. So do I really want to spend ages messing with fonts, changing stupid themes just to view any webpage with the naked human eyes? NO</p>
<p>Back to a proper, professionally developed OS for me, WIN 7 Ultimate 64bit, perfect fonts, perfect stability, far better apps, far better appearance, no messing with fonts and stupid &#8220;folder views&#8221; just to get a &#8220;traditional&#8221; desktop, yes the downside is damn security suites and their updating etc but at least I can actually enjoy computing and finally, so many of the stupid Linux users remarks about &#8220;blue screens of death&#8221;, what bsods? I haven&#8217;t seen a bsod since Win 2000, Vista &amp; 7 are rock solid stable.</p>
<p>Enjoy the garbage that is KDE &amp; all other modern DEs since the only half decent one, Gnome 2.xx, is now a thing of the past !!! LOL and BYE <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mobiusinversion</title>
		<link>http://hanschen.org/2009/01/29/plasma-desktop-icons-in-kde-42/#comment-1839</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great tip, thanks, was looking for how to do that! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great tip, thanks, was looking for how to do that! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://hanschen.org/2009/01/29/plasma-desktop-icons-in-kde-42/#comment-939</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 10:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You won&#039;t get an option to disable every feature that&#039;s introduced. In 4.5 you will get another icon, an up arrow to open the folder popup (the one that shows up on hover in 4.4). There is no option to change this either because no one had time to implement it, but there will be in 4.6.

Yes it&#039;s the same as Ctrl+left click. Sometimes it&#039;s useful when you don&#039;t have your other hand on the keyboard, and I&#039;m sure there are people who find clicking on the plus easier. And it&#039;s easier to discover as well.
Personally I like to use keyboard modifiers, for example Alt+left click to move a window or Alt+right click to resize it. But most people I know drag the titlebar or borders to move/resize windows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You won&#8217;t get an option to disable every feature that&#8217;s introduced. In 4.5 you will get another icon, an up arrow to open the folder popup (the one that shows up on hover in 4.4). There is no option to change this either because no one had time to implement it, but there will be in 4.6.</p>
<p>Yes it&#8217;s the same as Ctrl+left click. Sometimes it&#8217;s useful when you don&#8217;t have your other hand on the keyboard, and I&#8217;m sure there are people who find clicking on the plus easier. And it&#8217;s easier to discover as well.<br />
Personally I like to use keyboard modifiers, for example Alt+left click to move a window or Alt+right click to resize it. But most people I know drag the titlebar or borders to move/resize windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Baldemar Huerta</title>
		<link>http://hanschen.org/2009/01/29/plasma-desktop-icons-in-kde-42/#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baldemar Huerta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 02:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, they suddenly appeared, after not being there, no theme change, just an update.  So there must be a setting somewhere in KDE or opensuse.  When you say &quot;selects the icon, I assume that&#039;s the same as ctrl+click?  It looks that way.  Again, extra effort to click the plus vs ctrl+click.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they suddenly appeared, after not being there, no theme change, just an update.  So there must be a setting somewhere in KDE or opensuse.  When you say &#8220;selects the icon, I assume that&#8217;s the same as ctrl+click?  It looks that way.  Again, extra effort to click the plus vs ctrl+click.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://hanschen.org/2009/01/29/plasma-desktop-icons-in-kde-42/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 00:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Baldemar Huerta:

Same as the + sign in Dolphin - clicking on it selects the icon. You can disable it in Dolphin but not in Folder View, as far as I know. A possible (&quot;hackish&quot; workaround could be to modify the theme and remove the plus icons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Baldemar Huerta:</p>
<p>Same as the + sign in Dolphin &#8211; clicking on it selects the icon. You can disable it in Dolphin but not in Folder View, as far as I know. A possible (&#8220;hackish&#8221; workaround could be to modify the theme and remove the plus icons.</p>
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		<title>By: Baldemar Huerta</title>
		<link>http://hanschen.org/2009/01/29/plasma-desktop-icons-in-kde-42/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baldemar Huerta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 00:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t find the answer to this anywhere.  What is the black circular plus sign next to the icons for?  It changes to a minus sign if you click it, but does nothing. Opensuse 11.3 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) &quot;release 3&quot;

They just showed up suddenly.  I want to make them go away as they are superfluous, and look sucky.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t find the answer to this anywhere.  What is the black circular plus sign next to the icons for?  It changes to a minus sign if you click it, but does nothing. Opensuse 11.3 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) &#8220;release 3&#8243;</p>
<p>They just showed up suddenly.  I want to make them go away as they are superfluous, and look sucky.</p>
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		<title>By: 10 things you might want to do in KDE SC 4.4 &#171; Who Says Penguins Can&#39;t Fly?</title>
		<link>http://hanschen.org/2009/01/29/plasma-desktop-icons-in-kde-42/#comment-713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[10 things you might want to do in KDE SC 4.4 &#171; Who Says Penguins Can&#39;t Fly?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] more information about desktop icons, see this blog post. Although it&#8217;s written for KDE SC 4.2, most of the things are the same in [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more information about desktop icons, see this blog post. Although it&#8217;s written for KDE SC 4.2, most of the things are the same in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ScriptKiddie</title>
		<link>http://hanschen.org/2009/01/29/plasma-desktop-icons-in-kde-42/#comment-579</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ScriptKiddie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is effin ridiculous. I just want my damn icons to show up on the desktop in KDE4. I should not have to visit a blog like this to figure it out! I&#039;m going to GNOME for good. Thanks anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is effin ridiculous. I just want my damn icons to show up on the desktop in KDE4. I should not have to visit a blog like this to figure it out! I&#8217;m going to GNOME for good. Thanks anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Woodstock69</title>
		<link>http://hanschen.org/2009/01/29/plasma-desktop-icons-in-kde-42/#comment-93</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, 5PGuy, I&#039;m about to return to KDE 3.5 too. I&#039;m using Linux Mint 6 KDE CD at the moment, but am downloading openSUSE 11.1 again to re-install KDE 3.5.

To me the KDE 4 experiment has been a &quot;successful&quot; failure. I much prefer the functionality of KDE 3.5.10. I&#039;ll make the comparison as much the same as between Vista and XP. Some like Vista some don&#039;t. Some swear by XP and wont go past it. I&#039;m at the stage now that when KDE 4.5 comes out, I&#039;ll probably look at it again. 

I miss my Konquerer functionality, dual screens and themes. None of which feature in 4.2, or at least allude me. As regular participant at Distrowatch.com, I&#039;ve decided to boycott any distro featuring KDE 4, until at least 4.5.

I have real work to do (running a business) and don&#039;t have time to fully learn (appreciate) the nuances of KDE 4.2, when KDE 3.5.10 is perfect.

BTW. As I&#039;ve stated, I do appreciate the work the KDE team and community are doing at progressing KDE 4 into a mature DE. It&#039;s just not ready for me yet ;^)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, 5PGuy, I&#8217;m about to return to KDE 3.5 too. I&#8217;m using Linux Mint 6 KDE CD at the moment, but am downloading openSUSE 11.1 again to re-install KDE 3.5.</p>
<p>To me the KDE 4 experiment has been a &#8220;successful&#8221; failure. I much prefer the functionality of KDE 3.5.10. I&#8217;ll make the comparison as much the same as between Vista and XP. Some like Vista some don&#8217;t. Some swear by XP and wont go past it. I&#8217;m at the stage now that when KDE 4.5 comes out, I&#8217;ll probably look at it again. </p>
<p>I miss my Konquerer functionality, dual screens and themes. None of which feature in 4.2, or at least allude me. As regular participant at Distrowatch.com, I&#8217;ve decided to boycott any distro featuring KDE 4, until at least 4.5.</p>
<p>I have real work to do (running a business) and don&#8217;t have time to fully learn (appreciate) the nuances of KDE 4.2, when KDE 3.5.10 is perfect.</p>
<p>BTW. As I&#8217;ve stated, I do appreciate the work the KDE team and community are doing at progressing KDE 4 into a mature DE. It&#8217;s just not ready for me yet ;^)</p>
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		<title>By: 5PGuy</title>
		<link>http://hanschen.org/2009/01/29/plasma-desktop-icons-in-kde-42/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[5PGuy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I quickly reviewing the comments, woodstock69 stated it best for my opinion.  I had my KDE 3.5 all set up and then I upgraded to KDE 4.2.  I&#039;ve been on it a week and I want to return to my KDE 3.5.   The word &quot;comprehend&quot; stands out for me.   The second word that woodstock69 mentioned was documentation.

I&#039;ve tried retuning to KDE 3.5 but failed.  So, I&#039;m back to 4.2 and will live with it, until either I &quot;get it&quot; or find more documentation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quickly reviewing the comments, woodstock69 stated it best for my opinion.  I had my KDE 3.5 all set up and then I upgraded to KDE 4.2.  I&#8217;ve been on it a week and I want to return to my KDE 3.5.   The word &#8220;comprehend&#8221; stands out for me.   The second word that woodstock69 mentioned was documentation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried retuning to KDE 3.5 but failed.  So, I&#8217;m back to 4.2 and will live with it, until either I &#8220;get it&#8221; or find more documentation.</p>
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